Printinz Printer Plate first impressions

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seaton
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Printinz Printer Plate first impressions

Post by seaton »

G'day one and All,

Thought I'd share my first impressions of the Printinz Plate that I received in the post today since I've been looking for alternatives to my glass plate and glue stick from my abs prints. I've backed a kickstarter gecko printer plate, but there's been a delay in the ABS one.

So I found Printinz and after enquiring they said they're happy to cut to size, and that they did right to my Felix bed dimensions, my order arrived today.

My first test print: Print bed @ 60DegC and my ABS at my normal temp, 275DegC on e3D hotend
to give a nice glossy finish.

Man am I impressed, in that I didn't have to do anything other than have a level bed and hit the print button. The ABS just stuck to it, no lifting, no warping, nothing.

The only problem it's stuck a little too good and I delimitated the bottom layer trying to remove the print. Reading the FAQ on their website it looks like I'm going to have to lower my print temp. But will play around with it to see how it goes.

But first print tonight and I'm impressed, totally works on ABS, will also try nylon, from whether site says shouldn't be a problem, even ninjaflex.

Only downside is thats its a little expensive. The custom cut to size was $USD98 +$US20 shipping to Australia. Early indications is this this is going to be well worth it.

[disclaimer]I have no affiliation with Printinz or any of their partners, just looking for a no mess solution[/disclaimer]
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Stephen...

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Post by jjlink »

This sounds good. Let us know when you find a good bed temp for ABS. Thanks
Felix 3.0 with E3D Dual direct drive extruder conversion. (http://forum.felixprinters.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1630)
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Post by seaton »

jjlink wrote:This sounds good. Let us know when you find a good bed temp for ABS. Thanks
I was playing around with it further and I found for small prints (haven't done large yet) I left heated bed off, increased my speed for first layer and now parts just peel/pop right off. I'm sure I'll have to increase the bed heat but seems ok so far.

I'll continue playing
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Hugues
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Post by Hugues »

good to see it works out.

But isn't 98 usd a bit on the expensive side ?

I've been printing on this for 3 months now:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013H ... UTF8&psc=1
17 usd

PLA: no problem at 65C, no brim
Arnitel works fine with brim,
ABS ? not really tried it. I hate ABS. Reviews seem to indicate it works fine.
Hugues
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Post by frankjoke »

I am using this http://www.buildtak.eu/product/buildtak ... t-surface/ (works fine on PLA without heated bed and also ABS from 90° for me). For the same price I can get 4x the sheets! It's also available on Amazon....

For PLA this works as well: http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Full-Sheet- ... B00006HUP7

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Post by seaton »

I've previously tried most things with most success with glass and gluestik, heated bed at 90-100 as well but always a bit hit and miss on larger builds, so much so that I would never do more than a single item per print because of the first layer failures. It's interesting to see the other options, and interested in what Hugues is using so will file that away for a later date.

But I'm happy with this bed as it just friggin sticks regardless of bed temp, actually if its hotter its definitely much harder to get it of, in the end the first pint had to be wiped off with acetone it stuck so much.
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Post by fanass »

I ordered printinz yesterday and i am curious abt the results.
I am using a clean glassplate at 65 Deg. for PLA with great success, but no chance with ABS even with gluestik, because of insufficient heat bed temperatur (max 85 Deg even with isolation).

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Post by seaton »

I think you'll like it, just works, Personally I wouldn't use anything else at the moment, its now set and forget for me, were as before that first layer was always a bit hit and miss. As for how long the plate will last will be the next question to be answered.

I printed some ninjaflex last night no hotbed on, stuck like crazy, finally got it to come off with a little work. Bottom surface nice smooth and shiny :)

Same with my ABS I still haven't had to turn on the hotbed for any of those yet and had another rip the bottom off when removing the print, finally had to use acetone to get it off as I didn't want to scratch the surface, but I think this one may have been a little too close to the plate (old habits) A couple of tests I did yesterday these popped right off and the only think I did was adjust my Z zero to it was a little higher. Their website seems to have some good instructions on using the plate.

Long weekend this weekend so I have some time to do some more testing so will be trying PLA, that I know will work, but also Nylon and PolyCarbonate.
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Post by seaton »

After some more testing this weekend.

Ninjaflex - Sticks like superglue, no heating of bed, hard to get off, but when it did it came off all in one piece

Nylon - no curling, pops straight off, bed at 40Deg, hotnend distance to plate critical to get adhesion.

PolyCarbonate - slight curling at corners, reasonable adhesion, peels off when finished, hotness 285DegC, bed at 60Degc, speed 3000mm/Min. Will try next with bed at 90Deg to see if this resolves the curling. Also may try adding skirt.
Stephen...

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Post by seaton »

polycarbonate followup...

not warping with skirt (6 outlines) and hotbed at 90Degc and print speed lowered to 3000mm/Min
Stephen...

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